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		<title>By: Fern Dagmar</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-617</link>
		<author>Fern Dagmar</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2003 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeDe,
I just wanted to tell you that you are very lucky (imho). My boyfriend
leaves the HOUSE if I have to use the bathroom. He says he is walking our
dogs, but I know it is the smell because when I ask him about it he grins
from ear to ear. But like you say.....everyone is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeDe,<br />
I just wanted to tell you that you are very lucky (imho). My boyfriend<br />
leaves the HOUSE if I have to use the bathroom. He says he is walking our<br />
dogs, but I know it is the smell because when I ask him about it he grins<br />
from ear to ear. But like you say&#8230;..everyone is different.</p>
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		<title>By: Fern Dagmar</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-607</link>
		<author>Fern Dagmar</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know about the rest of you, but my advice to new post-ops is to
invest in a good deodorizer. NOT air freshener because these just cover up
the smell of a post-op fart. This is because when I pass gas in a close
space I nearly pass out let alone everyone else. I have found that the
neutralizer" made by glade is good.
You ARE blessed.....Now, go BE a blessing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you, but my advice to new post-ops is to<br />
invest in a good deodorizer. NOT air freshener because these just cover up<br />
the smell of a post-op fart. This is because when I pass gas in a close<br />
space I nearly pass out let alone everyone else. I have found that the<br />
neutralizer&#8221; made by glade is good.<br />
You ARE blessed&#8230;..Now, go BE a blessing.</p>
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		<title>By: Arlen Selina</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-598</link>
		<author>Arlen Selina</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Donna --
 I found your post hilarious! Different people have different
 consequences but mine weren't as bad as your post speculates.
 No bad breath at all. As for farting (still laughing!), this
 doesn't happen any more than before surgery. I'm careful with
 milk products and spaghetti sauce. No one but me knew that I'd
 lost any hair. I mostly noticed in the shower, and having to
 clean my brush more often. But everyone else thought my hair
 looked shinier and healthier! Now the skin thing ... you were
 right on target there. Sometimes I feel like I have a 60 year
 old appearance in my 33 year old body. Icky tummy and arms and
 thighs. But I'm wearing a size 8 and sometimes even a 6! So if
 I don't look good naked, I can shut the lights to go to bed and
 wear clothes to the office!
 Good luck with your journey!
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 -- Bari
 RNY 1/99
 234-144
 Message: 8
 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:10:20 -0800 (PST)
 From: Donna Willis &#60;hoseley@...
 Subject: law of unintended consequences
 Not that unintended consequences will make me decide not to get the
 surgery, I am just wondering what those are. After reading a lot, I
 find that: You may look better but you will have bad breath, fart a
 lot, lose your hair, have skin hanging all over the place. I am
 prepared for those, but are there any others that I need to be aware of
 so that I can prepare for them, also? Donna open RNY scheduled 3-1-02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Donna &#8211;<br />
 I found your post hilarious! Different people have different<br />
 consequences but mine weren&#8217;t as bad as your post speculates.<br />
 No bad breath at all. As for farting (still laughing!), this<br />
 doesn&#8217;t happen any more than before surgery. I&#8217;m careful with<br />
 milk products and spaghetti sauce. No one but me knew that I&#8217;d<br />
 lost any hair. I mostly noticed in the shower, and having to<br />
 clean my brush more often. But everyone else thought my hair<br />
 looked shinier and healthier! Now the skin thing &#8230; you were<br />
 right on target there. Sometimes I feel like I have a 60 year<br />
 old appearance in my 33 year old body. Icky tummy and arms and<br />
 thighs. But I&#8217;m wearing a size 8 and sometimes even a 6! So if<br />
 I don&#8217;t look good naked, I can shut the lights to go to bed and<br />
 wear clothes to the office!<br />
 Good luck with your journey!<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 &#8212; Bari<br />
 RNY 1/99<br />
 234-144<br />
 Message: 8<br />
 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:10:20 -0800 (PST)<br />
 From: Donna Willis &lt;hoseley@&#8230;<br />
 Subject: law of unintended consequences<br />
 Not that unintended consequences will make me decide not to get the<br />
 surgery, I am just wondering what those are. After reading a lot, I<br />
 find that: You may look better but you will have bad breath, fart a<br />
 lot, lose your hair, have skin hanging all over the place. I am<br />
 prepared for those, but are there any others that I need to be aware of<br />
 so that I can prepare for them, also? Donna open RNY scheduled 3-1-02</p>
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		<title>By: coretta50</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-585</link>
		<author>coretta50</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-585</guid>
		<description>DeDe,
Everyone is different.. but I can tell you that I don't think I have bad
breath... I don't fart more then normal... and I don't have problems with my
bowels...basically I am very normal... but I did loose SOME of my hair and I
do have a bit of saggy skin but it isn't too bad. All in all... I am very
happy.
Sandra in California</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeDe,<br />
Everyone is different.. but I can tell you that I don&#8217;t think I have bad<br />
breath&#8230; I don&#8217;t fart more then normal&#8230; and I don&#8217;t have problems with my<br />
bowels&#8230;basically I am very normal&#8230; but I did loose SOME of my hair and I<br />
do have a bit of saggy skin but it isn&#8217;t too bad. All in all&#8230; I am very<br />
happy.<br />
Sandra in California</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Larae</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-582</link>
		<author>Kelly Larae</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2003 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much Sandra,
I am pre op, waiting for insurance approval. I read Donna's email and
whoa! I wanted to say that all of those don't happen to all WLS patients,
correct? I would say that everyone is different and it depends on what you
eat and drink and how well you take care of your self after the surgery, am
I correct here? If you don't follow the rules of course some of those
negatives stated will probably happen, but the likelihood of them happening
all at once would be very slim, correct? I have not had the surgery yet,
but I have read and watched the group websites regarding these issues.
Besides, I would still take the trade.
DeDe Duncan
500+
Lewisville, TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much Sandra,<br />
I am pre op, waiting for insurance approval. I read Donna&#8217;s email and<br />
whoa! I wanted to say that all of those don&#8217;t happen to all WLS patients,<br />
correct? I would say that everyone is different and it depends on what you<br />
eat and drink and how well you take care of your self after the surgery, am<br />
I correct here? If you don&#8217;t follow the rules of course some of those<br />
negatives stated will probably happen, but the likelihood of them happening<br />
all at once would be very slim, correct? I have not had the surgery yet,<br />
but I have read and watched the group websites regarding these issues.<br />
Besides, I would still take the trade.<br />
DeDe Duncan<br />
500+<br />
Lewisville, TX</p>
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		<title>By: coretta50</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-577</link>
		<author>coretta50</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2003/07/25/law-of-unintended-consequences/#comment-577</guid>
		<description>LOL Donna,
 You make it all sound bad. From my own experience... I had some sagging skin
 prior to surgery...just part of getting older...and not I have a bit more.
 The farting thing.... well, I don't fart anymore now then I did prior to
 surgery.. in fact, I think I have less of a problem because I eat better
 foods. As for the bad breath... I have never had anyone back away from me or
 tell me I have bad breath so I guess brushing and mouthwash takes care of
 that problem. As for hair loss... yes, that one is still happening but I had
 plenty to begin with so I haven't missed what I have lost much and it will
 grow back eventually. All in all.... I think the trade off was pretty good. I
 now have a body that can move and fits into size 14 clothes instead of size
 28 tents. I feel sexy verses being a blob that wanted to hide and didn't
 have a lot of confidence in her looks. I guess I am just trying to say... it
 is all a matter of how you look at things. I for one focus on the good parts
 of this surgery and what it has given me....
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 If you want to focus on the negative though... you forgot dumping, diarrhae,
 constipation, hernias, scars, going broke from becoming an shopaholic after
 wls, dealing with unwanted attention from admiring pesky men, having to do
 your own housework cause you now have the energy, being late for work because
 now you sleep longer then before due to no more sleep apnea, going broke
 because now you want to do everything under the sun and you don't have the
 funds to support your new lifestyle.
 I think you get what I mean. We can be prepared, which is what I think you
 were asking, or we can look at the negative verses the positive. Try to be
 aware of what you are facing ... that is good and I applaud you for it....
 but also let yourself dream a little about the positive things that will
 happen through the changes. The positives really outweight the negative... at
 least for me. Take care on your journey.
 Sandra in California</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Donna,<br />
 You make it all sound bad. From my own experience&#8230; I had some sagging skin<br />
 prior to surgery&#8230;just part of getting older&#8230;and not I have a bit more.<br />
 The farting thing&#8230;. well, I don&#8217;t fart anymore now then I did prior to<br />
 surgery.. in fact, I think I have less of a problem because I eat better<br />
 foods. As for the bad breath&#8230; I have never had anyone back away from me or<br />
 tell me I have bad breath so I guess brushing and mouthwash takes care of<br />
 that problem. As for hair loss&#8230; yes, that one is still happening but I had<br />
 plenty to begin with so I haven&#8217;t missed what I have lost much and it will<br />
 grow back eventually. All in all&#8230;. I think the trade off was pretty good. I<br />
 now have a body that can move and fits into size 14 clothes instead of size<br />
 28 tents. I feel sexy verses being a blob that wanted to hide and didn&#8217;t<br />
 have a lot of confidence in her looks. I guess I am just trying to say&#8230; it<br />
 is all a matter of how you look at things. I for one focus on the good parts<br />
 of this surgery and what it has given me&#8230;.<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 If you want to focus on the negative though&#8230; you forgot dumping, diarrhae,<br />
 constipation, hernias, scars, going broke from becoming an shopaholic after<br />
 wls, dealing with unwanted attention from admiring pesky men, having to do<br />
 your own housework cause you now have the energy, being late for work because<br />
 now you sleep longer then before due to no more sleep apnea, going broke<br />
 because now you want to do everything under the sun and you don&#8217;t have the<br />
 funds to support your new lifestyle.<br />
 I think you get what I mean. We can be prepared, which is what I think you<br />
 were asking, or we can look at the negative verses the positive. Try to be<br />
 aware of what you are facing &#8230; that is good and I applaud you for it&#8230;.<br />
 but also let yourself dream a little about the positive things that will<br />
 happen through the changes. The positives really outweight the negative&#8230; at<br />
 least for me. Take care on your journey.<br />
 Sandra in California</p>
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