Comments on: Question for RNYers

By: bruce11

bruce11 — Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:08:02 +0000

In a message dated 3/3/02 7:31:24 AM, vlbrunn@… writes:
<< << I have a question for those who have had the RNY. If
any of you have had stoma closures and/or dumping,
please tell me what it feels like. Also, what was
done to help you.
My stoma closed from swelling from an ulcer. It started as slight nausea
after eating, progressing to vomiting after eating solids to vomiting
everything, including water. I was scoped, which open the stoma somewhat so
that I could get fluids down….given medication for the ulcer and was fine
after a day or two.
gayle

By: Arlen Selina

Arlen Selina — Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:45:35 +0000

Dumping syndrome isn’t the same for everyone, and
it isn’t the same every time. Sometimes it’s just
overwhelming fatigue. Like I could just lay my
head down on the desk or restaurant table and pass
out. More extreme occurrences included being dizzy,
shaking, sweating, and worst of all, NAUSEA, and
stomach cramps. It’s kind of like being hit with
the full blown flu with no warning. But in the
worst experiences, it goes away in 3-5 hours. More
mild incidences could pass in 30-60 minutes.
After surgery you just don’t eat sugary foods and
foods with high fats. A few months later when you
start to experiment, you’ll learn what you can and
cannot tolerate. On an empty stomach I cannot
handle very much at all. But after eating something,

I can have one drink (sipping it — no shots!), or
even a candy bar. I can’t ever handle cheese sauce
(like at Taco Bell) and things like mayonaisse and
sour cream are my mortal enemies. Some things still
surprise me — I once experienced dumping syndrome
after a baked potato! But most of the time I’m fine.
The nice thing is that knowing overdoing it will
make me sick has given me a LOT more control. I can
eat 10 M&M’s and then stop with no further thought or
effort. I can order cheesecake in a restaurant and
just eat a couple of bites. Usually I try to share
if indulging in a dessert!
Hope this helped. Good luck on your journey!
— Bari
Message: 11
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:56:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Dee F Subject: Question for RNYers
I have a question for those who have had the RNY. If
any of you have had stoma closures and/or dumping,
please tell me what it feels like. Also, what was
done to help you.
Thanks!

By: Rickey Nichols

Rickey Nichols — Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:45:14 +0000

Dumping and stoma closures are two very different things. If you are
dumping, the only thing that will help you is time as the food that is
causing it works its way through. Another thing that will help you is to
avoid dumping by not eating processed sugars/high fat foods. Dumping is a
physiological reaction processed sugars being “dumped” into the intestine
where it is not used to being broken down. What did it feel like? When I
last dumped (this morning actually) it felt like hell. I got dizzy,
nauseous, a headache and my stomach cramped. Then the diahrrhea started and
I ended up in the bathroom for 45 minutes heaving. Amazing how harsh it was
since I have NOT dumped like that in a long time. I am going to throw out
the cause (peanut butter patties — Walmart brand) and not have that happen.
Mine was a severe case of dumping. Normally if I dump it is very mild — a
slight headache or maybe tiredness. But sometimes it feels like an all out
assault on my innards. Now there are other things that can result from
dumping besides what i mentioned above. Some people get hot flashes while

others get chills. The key is it is tied to what you ate. My dumping started
five minutes after I ate the cookies. My own damn fault and I knew it.
Stoma closures result in the inability to keep ANYTHING down — including
water. You will experience vomiting every time you take something in. These
are remedied by going to the doctor and having them scope you open. What can
prevent them? Nothing that I am aware of.
Another thing that can cause nausea/vomiting? Don’t forget the flu. We are
not immune just because we had WLS. And the flu is around. Oh and pregnancy
can cause it too. Since fertility skyrockets after surgery make sure you are
using protection every time you have sex. Or you might end up pregnant.
Denise Rasley
mailto:drasley@…
BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98
Lost over 90% of excess and maintaining
Gained a beautiful daughter on 8/9/00

By: harold_2000

harold_2000 — Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:48:29 +0000

In a message dated 3/2/02 8:32:15 PM, dee_fox777@… writes:
<< I have a question for those who have had the RNY. If
any of you have had stoma closures and/or dumping,
please tell me what it feels like. Also, what was
done to help you.
I had no problems with my stoma closing, but I do dump……big time. I
can’t eat more than 8 grams of sugar at a sitting or I dump. I feel light
headed, dizzy and nauseated. I feel bad enough that I usually have to just
go to bed for about 2-3 hours and sleep it off. Nothing is done to help
dumping except staying away from the food that causes the problem. I’m very
careful to read labels and stay with what I know to be safe foods when I’m
dining out. I also can’t eat much dairy, but that doesn’t usually cause
dumping, it causes diarreah and gas. Hope this helps.
Vicki
open RNY 6/28/01

170# and loving life!