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		<title>By: Merle Gregoria</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2006/10/30/death-rate-after-surgery/#comment-3551</link>
		<author>Merle Gregoria</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the death rate reported by the ASBS the last time I checked was 1
in 200. The death rate however is highly individual. Some surgeons death
rates are higher than others because they take the higher risk cases -- the
super morbidly obese with extreme comorbidities -- that other surgeons won't
touch. The death rate doesn't tell the whole story about this surgery. This
surgery is ONLY done -- or ONLY SHOULD BE DONE -- on those who in a high
risk group -- the morbidly obese (or super morbidly obese) with
co-morbidities. This group is high risk for ANY surgery they have and WLS is
no different. A lot of people throw the death rate out there in hopes of
scaring people away from surgery -- however the death rate of 1 in 200 is
comparable to that of the death rate for a c-section.
Denise Rasley
mailto: drasley@...
BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the death rate reported by the ASBS the last time I checked was 1<br />
in 200. The death rate however is highly individual. Some surgeons death<br />
rates are higher than others because they take the higher risk cases &#8212; the<br />
super morbidly obese with extreme comorbidities &#8212; that other surgeons won&#8217;t<br />
touch. The death rate doesn&#8217;t tell the whole story about this surgery. This<br />
surgery is ONLY done &#8212; or ONLY SHOULD BE DONE &#8212; on those who in a high<br />
risk group &#8212; the morbidly obese (or super morbidly obese) with<br />
co-morbidities. This group is high risk for ANY surgery they have and WLS is<br />
no different. A lot of people throw the death rate out there in hopes of<br />
scaring people away from surgery &#8212; however the death rate of 1 in 200 is<br />
comparable to that of the death rate for a c-section.<br />
Denise Rasley<br />
mailto: <a href="mailto:drasley@...">drasley@&#8230;</a><br />
BTC, Columbus, 10/7/98</p>
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		<title>By: Latisha Brennan</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2006/10/30/death-rate-after-surgery/#comment-3550</link>
		<author>Latisha Brennan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,
According to my surgeon (and I've since heard it repeated on the local
Cincinnati news) the death rate for ANY major surgery is 1 in 200. This
includes gall bladder removal as well as RNY. The statistics are usually
given for these "combined" types of major surgery because it's too difficult
to isolate one specific major surgery. For instance with RNY, the procedure
has changed so much over the past 20 years for statistical purposes it would
be difficult to come up with an accurate figure. Would it be for lap or
open? Would it be for all 20+ years or just the last 5 years? Also, what's
the time frame for dying...on the table... within 3 months of the surgery..
within 6 months? All major surgery is a risk...so is obesity. They don't
call it "morbid" obesity for nothing. Sherry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,<br />
According to my surgeon (and I&#8217;ve since heard it repeated on the local<br />
Cincinnati news) the death rate for ANY major surgery is 1 in 200. This<br />
includes gall bladder removal as well as RNY. The statistics are usually<br />
given for these &#8220;combined&#8221; types of major surgery because it&#8217;s too difficult<br />
to isolate one specific major surgery. For instance with RNY, the procedure<br />
has changed so much over the past 20 years for statistical purposes it would<br />
be difficult to come up with an accurate figure. Would it be for lap or<br />
open? Would it be for all 20+ years or just the last 5 years? Also, what&#8217;s<br />
the time frame for dying&#8230;on the table&#8230; within 3 months of the surgery..<br />
within 6 months? All major surgery is a risk&#8230;so is obesity. They don&#8217;t<br />
call it &#8220;morbid&#8221; obesity for nothing. Sherry</p>
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		<title>By: Neva Marjory</title>
		<link>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2006/10/30/death-rate-after-surgery/#comment-3549</link>
		<author>Neva Marjory</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.obesity-surgery.wordpress-by.org/2006/10/30/death-rate-after-surgery/#comment-3549</guid>
		<description>One more thing, not to prattle on, but some people don't want their
 loved ones to have a procedure that they deem too risky and will try
 to frighten you with ill-slanted statistics and horror stories of
 people who had the surgery and then got some disease directly
 related to it, etc. Believe me, I have heard some doozies!
 I work in statistics and one of the phrases that we use quite a bit
 is "figures lie and liars figure". Without the data on the report--
 who was studied, how many people in the study, their health problems
 before during and after the surgery, their relative age, even who
 sponsored the study, I would tend to think this was a scare tactic.
 My reality is that I survived the surgery and the first 30 days
 and the first year and a half. My health related issues since
 surgery have been rare and mild, although I had some chronic issues
 before surgery that disappeared in days. I recently had a throat
 infection that is not related to my surgery at all, however before I
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 went to the hospital, while I was ill, my sister asked if I could
 get my surgery reversed. Of course I could, but I never would. If
 I had to have this surgery once a year to maintain the benefits I've
 received, I would have it once a year. I know quite a few people
 who feel the same way.
 Good luck and gear up for the naysayers. It's your decision. The
 opposite of love is fear!
 Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, not to prattle on, but some people don&#8217;t want their<br />
 loved ones to have a procedure that they deem too risky and will try<br />
 to frighten you with ill-slanted statistics and horror stories of<br />
 people who had the surgery and then got some disease directly<br />
 related to it, etc. Believe me, I have heard some doozies!<br />
 I work in statistics and one of the phrases that we use quite a bit<br />
 is &#8220;figures lie and liars figure&#8221;. Without the data on the report&#8211;<br />
 who was studied, how many people in the study, their health problems<br />
 before during and after the surgery, their relative age, even who<br />
 sponsored the study, I would tend to think this was a scare tactic.<br />
 My reality is that I survived the surgery and the first 30 days<br />
 and the first year and a half. My health related issues since<br />
 surgery have been rare and mild, although I had some chronic issues<br />
 before surgery that disappeared in days. I recently had a throat<br />
 infection that is not related to my surgery at all, however before I<br />
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 went to the hospital, while I was ill, my sister asked if I could<br />
 get my surgery reversed. Of course I could, but I never would. If<br />
 I had to have this surgery once a year to maintain the benefits I&#8217;ve<br />
 received, I would have it once a year. I know quite a few people<br />
 who feel the same way.<br />
 Good luck and gear up for the naysayers. It&#8217;s your decision. The<br />
 opposite of love is fear!<br />
 Mary</p>
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